Steffany Gretzinger & Amanda Cook
People often ask them questions about leading together, so they decided to do this session together.
“It will always be true that what people don’t see is the most important thing.” Steffany Gretz
“It’s always an open conversation with the Lord” Steffany Gretz
You have your own walk with the Lord
You have secrets with Him
Songs with Him, that are only for Him
It should feel natural to wait on Him in the corporate, because you’re so used to doing it in the quiet place, even if it feels uncomfortable.
B. Friendship - the test is to learn to walk in step.
A healthy family moves at the pace of its slowest member.
Receiving God as a friend, not just a Father, or a Saviour, but as a friend, who walks in step with you.
What does Spirit-led mean? He meets you in the pace of it, without feeling like he’s dumbing it down for you.
Transformation can be slow but he meets you there and moves at your pace. We’re not too slow.
C. Steff had a dream two nights ago which she shares.
At the beach - her place to relax.
A Lobster in front of her, which is still alive, she is beating it to kill it. She realizes the lobster is a kitten, which she is beating.
Then the kitten gets up and runs away and realizes she is going to have to kill it because it’s so badly hurt.
The kitten runs up the rocks and dives into the ocean. Steff feels like she is supposed to save it and she just starts screaming.
Her prophetic mama translated the dream for her. She is the kitten and she is still beating herself up too much. The kitten jumps into the water which it what we all do when we get saved.
D. The Holy Spirit - Wholeness and Holy-ness.
The Spirit of God.
He comes and whispers in Amanda’s ear through her friends.
Steff shared her dream with Amanda and it spoke powerfully to her this morning.
D. Practicing being present with the presence of God
Sometimes we present ourselves further than we are in our practice.
Simple day to day practice of paying attention. Making a choice.
A lifetime of testing the thoughts and emotions is what we’ve signed up for with the Holy Spirit.
E. You can’t take someone to a place you’ve never been in worship.
Simple clarity, go where you are today and embrace the pace.
Letting the bad thoughts pass through you. Not picking them up and embracing them.
Steff likens the way the holy spirit runs with us to the way a father teaches you to ride a bike - we gain momentum and confidence because he runs right beside us until we are able to say “ok, I’m ready for you to let go!” and he releases us into the freedom we’ve achieved.
Patience is a fruit of the spirit. You only produce fruit in the spirit when you spend time with him cultivating it.
Becoming a family means you all start to sound the same, you teach and say the same things, and develop language that sounds alike. And you bring your own flair to it.
F. We’re so anxious to become the thing we want to be, but we are already becoming that.
Who you are in this moment is crucial to that. Wait on the Lord.
You don’t always have to be getting something/somewhere. God’s not looking for us to work harder, he’s looking for us to just be with Him.
Seasons change - maturity asks what are you doing in me now. When you try to pull a season into another one it distorts the moment.
Covenant was never supposed to be comfortable. Sometimes when we camp out in a season, God is coaxing us out of it, back into something uncomfortable to keep growing.
In every season there will be something scary to do. You won’t grow without it.
Your capacity WILL feel maxed out from time to time.
Growing pains - pain with a purpose. It indicates growth.
G. Amanda shares her story of piano lessons growing up.
Music was the language for the heart in her home.
She talks about learning scales, and then changing teachers and having to relearn all of the fingering for the scales because the way she’d learned them would not serve her moving forward.
“I don’t want to teach you what to learn, I want to teach you how to learn”. She had to go back and learn from the basic beginning again.
Our level of practice actually determines how far we can go. It’s the same with walking in step with the Holy Spirit. It’s the practice of learning to feel the presence. The practice, when we think we’re going backwards, is actually to take us further. The Lord hems you in in your practice to give you the tools you need for your future.
The mystery of God is not confusing. Our spiritual guide is the Holy Spirit. Diving into the mystery of God looks like doing it with the Holy Spirit, to emerge the other side in a deeper place with more understanding.
You build history - like Amanda with the piano, she feels all of it when she plays.
When you practice it you get more out of it.
Amanda wants to inspire the daily practice of walking in step with the Holy Spirit.
Be aware of where you are and don’t push past it.
Amanda and Steff set alarms on their phones to remind themselves to be diligent in their practice.
H. Your way of living - whether knee-jerk or slow-paced with God - will always come out.
When everyone else is dancing in the room and the Lord asks you to sit, you won’t feel weird about it because you’ve practiced listening to the Lord and going at the pace you go at together in the secret place.
This doesn’t mean going against the grain for the sake of it.
I. When you’re leading other people, that’s when you find out where your at in the secret place.
Sometimes that can be disheartening. “It’s a dead crowd” could actually mean you weren’t operating in authority.
Don’t attach shame to it, but it’s there to point you back to Him.
“If you’re not failing, then you’re not trying hard enough” Kris Vallotton.
Step out in risk.
We have to be willing to fail.
When God is speaking through us, we are still using our voice. We are still bringing us to the conversation. We can’t be so self-important that we can’t fail.
Earn the trust of your leadership - ask them if you can branch out. Be released to do it.
“Spontaneity is the reward of preparation”
The practice has to come first and you have to be prepared to look silly.
Do you want to dance? Dance at home. You don’t need lessons first. Just dance at home.
J. Amanda talks about receiving “shallow” advice and the Lord questioning her about it.
The Lord doesn’t patronise us.
The shallows are where people congregate. It’s also where children learn to swim. Amanda shares how God took her to that place. It’s not just about the deep - it both/and.
Sometimes the Lord can almost sound too simple. But that’s beautifully Him.
Breathe. Anxiety messes up your breathing.
Are we still going to be burning in 20 years?
We love finding people who haven’t dropped out of the race.
There are seasons for jumping in the deep end. But you rest in still waters, not the deep.
Remind yourself of the simplicity of goodness.
Bethel doesn’t really do solo leaders anymore, because we’re family and we cover each other.
No one gets all the glory, and we don’t leave anyone hanging.
We take time with each other and take time to see where the Holy Spirit wants to take the set.
We lean into the Holy Spirit, but also into each other. Asking the Holy Spirit questions all the time.
Sometimes in the moment, it changes.
Locking in with your people.
Don’t take cues from what you’re “feeling” in the room. Being prophetically led. Pay attention to the emotions in the room but don’t be led by them.
Be aware of where we are at as leaders - you don’t want to lead everyone in the room into anxiety.
You learn to just be grateful that He’s in the room - whether or not you played a part in it.
He sees the whole thing, but you don’t need to be the one with the microphone.
Be the best you can be in the moment, know who you are - not everyone can be a 1st violin.
Amanda closes in prayer for the students.